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26 - Resident Evil Deep Dive w/ Red1ty

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In this episode of Getting Gamers, I am joined by my cousin Red1ty for a deep dive into the Resident Evil franchise and the evolution of survival horror gaming.

We explore what made the original Resident Evil games so revolutionary, from fixed camera angles and tension-building gameplay to the franchise’s transition into modern third-person horror experiences like Resident Evil 4, Resident Evil 7, and the recent remakes.

The conversation also branches into modern gaming technology, including Nvidia DLSS, graphics cards, AI’s impact on PC hardware pricing, the current RAM shortage, Unreal Engine, live service games, and the future of gaming performance.

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Unknown:

Getting

Juke:

gamers. Hello and welcome to getting gamers. Your guide to understanding the gamers in your life. I am your host Juke, and today I am joined by my cousin red.

Unknown:

Hello, everyone.

Juke:

So for people listening this, for me is is a fun moment. And for you guys as well, because you don't know this, but you've heard of red before. If you've heard me talk about my computer Messiah, that is red. And if you've heard me plug many times, JR auto spa, that is red as well. I mean, JR auto spa.ca,

Unknown:

yes,

Juke:

yes. So that is, is, is read as well.

Unknown:

Only,

Juke:

yes,

Unknown:

local only, absolutely, or computer assistance and support could be done at a distance. So through

Juke:

Jr auto spa, no.

Unknown:

Cyber clinic.

Juke:

Cyber clinic, yeah, I didn't know that link. That's

Unknown:

That's company, dot, cyber clinic, but in French, so C, l, I, N, I, Q, U, E,

Juke:

I'll put it in the description,

Unknown:

yeah, that if you need websites, if you need anything business or personal, if it's local, I could I come to you or over the phone or through remote desktop or anything like that. I can give you advice, help you optimize your games, optimize your computer. Just give general advice. Money isn't everything. I give a lot of stuff away for free, a lot of information. I help tons of people. Yeah,

Juke:

because you just love computers, You're the Messiah, man.

Unknown:

I have a really hard time seeing someone having an unoptimized computer that I make it my mission to just make it better. If you want to pay me, you could. Some people do, and sometimes I just help people out of just wanting them to experience it properly. I guess it's like, yeah, right,

Juke:

absolutely. And I trust, like I've sent so many people to red, like he really is a computer Messiah. Growing up, we're cousins, so I would show up to my aunt's house to see his sister, and we would want to go use a computer. We come downstairs and the computer is dismounted, and we're like, bro, we wanted to use the computer, and then he's his answer was always no, no, I could put it

Unknown:

back together. We

Juke:

wanted to play now.

Unknown:

We

Juke:

didn't want to wait for you to build the computer back to

Unknown:

play Barbie or whatever.

Juke:

I have no idea, because I did. We didn't play that many games

Unknown:

on Limewire. Are

Juke:

you? You just tease your sister so much for Limewire. I remember she had like, a little electronic game, and it was not like you couldn't hook it to Wi Fi, but it wasn't working. You just said she probably broke it. Putting Limewire on it,

Unknown:

she would break everything. I had a brand new iPod video, and I saw her just drop it out of her hands, like straight Butterfingers, and it slaps the floor brand new. I spent all summer paying for it, and she just goes, oops. I'm like, Oops. Like, anyways, we won't even get into how much I want this triangle. I'll never forget that. And also, she would trip over every single wire, yeah, but watch the wire, Alicia, I'm not stupid, and then bang, and your laptop goes flying across the room, and she's like, and she just says, Oops.

Getting Gamers:

She's

Unknown:

changed so

Juke:

much.

Unknown:

I was worried for her, but anyways,

Juke:

like I feel like she grew out of her clumsiness, because for when we were growing up, Alicia and I were both like, the clumsiest person, someone

Unknown:

too. I've always

Juke:

been clumsy, but it's genetic. It's my dad's fault. It's my dad's side's fault. It's genetic, you know, but that's the thing, is that your sister grew out of it. I feel like she grew out of it, like her maturity came with a loss of clumsiness and No, mine is purely genetic.

Unknown:

No, you're fine. Drive a car. You can't be too clumsy. Yeah. I mean, well, actually, I saw the outside of your car.

Juke:

No, those are not my fault.

Unknown:

Oh, you did

Juke:

one. One

Unknown:

is you didn't smash the bumper, and

Getting Gamers:

that

Juke:

bumper was my the bumper was my fault. The other side stuff was not my fault. Okay, so before we get into today's episode, how about you explain where your gamer tag comes from?

Unknown:

Yes. So my gamer tag is R, E, D, 1t, y, so red, red, 1t, Y, or it's supposed to be ready, yeah. And I added the one because at the time, was like, Oh, you gotta add one, because it's like, cool. You're replacing the i with a one, and I made it a long time ago, before Reddit existed, I just kind of sat on my computer and just started typing random letters until something came out. I must have been like, 13,

Juke:

yeah,

Unknown:

maybe 14, and I read

Juke:

it wasn't that when we were teens.

Unknown:

Much. I mean, I've had a lot. I've had like Jackson underscore Kelly, which is a guitar, Danny underscore way, which is a skateboarder, Rodney Mullen Jr, which is under skateboarder. So I've had all these weird like emails, but this is the one that stuck with me. That's the main one, and it's never used anywhere and anytime I go on like a platform where it says this tag already exists. I know that. I actually it's me who has an account.

Juke:

So just forgot you had an account. I just

Unknown:

forgot how to count exactly. So no, no one's ever gonna use it. Yeah, and, but usually in games, when people like you know you're in a random chat or a random match,

Juke:

yeah,

Unknown:

and people see your name, they just call me red. So they either put Chad red or in voice, they'll say red. Unless they're friends that know me, they'll call me Julian. But yeah, the origins is just the gamer tag means nothing. It's random. Some of my friends call me red lady, just like that.

Juke:

That

Unknown:

was more like a meme, internal meme. My friends call me. They call me like the red little tea. Like, oh shit, red tea is coming. Let's play. But yeah. All right, just ready so, but we can go with red.

Juke:

Red, yeah, because now that's kind of what you go what people call you. It's

Unknown:

just simpler, yeah.

Juke:

All right. Well, today, listeners, obviously you saw the title of the episode. We're gonna talk about Resident Evil, the game series, right? Because there's, like, how many? There's, like, eight,

Unknown:

I think there's, well, there's lots of spin offs and like, a version means like 15 at least, oh, yeah, more, yeah. But in general, the main, main line series, you'd have Resident Evil Zero up to nine

Juke:

zero.

Unknown:

Yeah, it starts at zero because

Juke:

it they did a prequel. The first one was okay. They

Unknown:

did a prequel, yeah, which we can get into. So essentially, the first Resident Evil game came out in 1998 and and I'm not going to go through the whole series, but the most important part that I think Resident Evil plays in gaming is that it was revolutionary at the time. Yes, it was the first survival horror game. I don't know if Silent Hill came out first, but they were kind of, everyone was kind of battling for the survival horror genre, and Resident Evil really pioneered it with the just the the fixed camera angles. So essentially, when you're and anyone that's played the game knows you, you'll run into a room and the camera will just like, automatically change. So it's third person, but wait, it doesn't follow the character

Juke:

I played. I don't know which Resident Evil I played, but I feel like the game didn't do that for me. I feel like I was fighting the camera the whole time,

Unknown:

like you were able to move the camera around.

Juke:

I think so. But maybe

Unknown:

when, when was it that you played

Juke:

it? It was a few years ago, not that long ago, and it was, I think, one that had been remade exactly the

Unknown:

remaster. Yeah, they did. They removed the fixed camera angles. Oh,

Juke:

my God, I would have loved that, though I hate third person camera.

Unknown:

Yeah, well, it depends, because people hate the fixed camera angles too, but the point of the fixed camera angles was, sometimes you'll just enter a room and you'll run straight and then the camera angle will just change, and you'll hear a zombie in the background, but you can't move the camera to look at where it is. So it added a really big suspense, because you never knew what was, Am I close enough? Yeah, you never knew what was coming around the corner. And that's what really gave that suspense. And they did a lot of cool techniques to make the game run well on because it was on PlayStation One, so it was

Juke:

kind of on purpose to keep you on edge, I guess 100% okay,

Unknown:

yeah, so keeps you on edge. The creepy music, obviously, the zombies. It was a game where you were you were weak, essentially, like you died in two, three hits. You barely had any ammo, like you start the game and you have nothing, and anything you do pick up, you're quickly using it. Now, of course, there's easy mode and stuff like that, but in general, that that was the point of the game, was survival horror. So you're you're barely surviving the whole way. So you got to be smart. You have a limited inventory system. And it definitely pioneered the way for other genres, like Dino Crisis, which is another,

Juke:

yeah, the dinosaur game,

Unknown:

yes, very, very similar to Resident Evil. It didn't take off as much Resident Evil did. So

Juke:

it's a horror dinosaur game, yeah, oh,

Unknown:

yeah. It's really cool.

Juke:

Yes,

Unknown:

that one's also PS one, and then it went to PS two. So the first three games, Resident Evil One, two and three were all on PS One, all had fixed camera angles. Graphics are about the same and had a really good story. In my opinion, the acting is really bad. Then the fourth one came out on PlayStation two and Xbox, and that one was the first one where you were behind the character, and a lot of people say

Juke:

that I hate you.

Unknown:

Yeah, that you're third person, actual third person. The cameras behind. And a lot of people say that that was the best one. I wasn't a huge fan of re for I've actually never really played that much of it. I beat every single one, almost. But did you

Juke:

start in 98 you were young in 98

Unknown:

Yeah, I don't know if I played it in 98

Juke:

so you started young,

Unknown:

but I definitely started, like, back in the day, let's say when I PS One that's I would try to play it. So yeah, and now they're all the way up to the ninth. They did kind of like, remaster the game. So they had one, two and three, they had four, and then five and six, but at some point they made a prequel called Resident Evil Zero. And it's essentially like, let's say resident for example, like Resident Evil One with the fixed camera angles, but all new graphics and this and that, right? So it was a remastered version that was, like the first remaster,

Juke:

yeah. So yeah, for Remastered. For the non gamers out there, when I think of remastered, the first thing that comes to my mind is songs like old, old songs like Beatles songs, pink float songs that are going to get Remastered. So it's when you think of a remastered song, it is the same, identical song, just the sound has been like perfected a little bit better with the new technology. But I'm noticing that in games, it doesn't feel that way, like for me, a remastered song is identical. I can barely tell the difference. It maybe sounds a little

Unknown:

clearer,

Juke:

just the quality, but remastered games. But so far, when I hear people talk about remastered games. There's always something that changes, that that people talk about,

Unknown:

yeah, well, Resident Evil Zero was his own game on its own. So we'll put that aside. Resident Evil One, I would consider an almost one to one remaster of the first one.

Juke:

Okay,

Unknown:

so except

Juke:

for that camera thing,

Unknown:

the camera thing is the same thing. So that's, that's the one I just beat, like, I think yesterday, actually, I finished it again, the remaster, I just finished it, and the remaster is pretty much re one, fixed camera angles. It was really, really good. Then you get into Resident Evil two remaster. But I would call it more like a reboot. They brought the series back. The story is there a lot of the environments, like key things, key parts of the story are still there, key scenery and stuff like that, key areas. But everything's completely different,

Juke:

like mechanics,

Unknown:

everything, yeah. So you have the third person with, you know, the movable camera, right? So it's not fixed camera angles. And obviously the graphics is super good. The story is the same, but different. It's just completely different game. But I would still say, if you're going to play Resident Evil, for someone who hasn't played, you definitely just play the remasters, because the remasters has all the quality of life improvements that you'd get from a more modern game, more replayability. The second one has two separate stories. You can play as Leon or Claire, and they both have so when you beat the game as Leon, you can replay the game as Claire, and it's a different game. But the two stories, in many ways, I

Juke:

think I played that one. I think

Unknown:

I did, probably did, yeah,

Juke:

that one,

Unknown:

like, for example, you might do something with Leon in the story and unlock a certain door, and then when you go to Claire, that door is unlocked,

Juke:

or

Unknown:

certain certain areas are only accessible by Claire and Leon will just be like, Oh, I don't know what this is not useful for me, but Claire actually, physically, that'll be a pick an item I can pick up.

Juke:

Okay,

Unknown:

so it has this, like, together thing,

Juke:

yeah.

Unknown:

And as the games progress, they have the two, they have the three, remastered we're talking about. But if we go back in time a little bit. They did make a five and a six. So they made the four on Xbox, then a five on PS three. Wait

Juke:

till the four was not on PS on PlayStation.

Unknown:

PS two,

Juke:

it was on PS, okay, yeah.

Unknown:

So like, let's say this is 1004 I think then they made Resident Evil five, which is just continuation that one's on PS three and Xbox 360 they made a number six. Those two were very different.

Juke:

Oh yeah,

Unknown:

Capcom said we want to go into the how, you'd say action oriented. So it was a much less survival horror, more action shooting, exploding zombies. Or, I don't even think there were really zombies. It was more like monsters at this point. And then in the seventh one, which is very high chance you played it, maybe you don't remember, but the seventh one, that one, after a long break, they came out and they said, We're bringing horror back. We're bringing Resident Evil back to its roots. It was first person, which I prefer, third person.

Juke:

Okay,

Unknown:

yeah. But that's when the series restarted, in a way, and really got back popularity. That was called Resident Evil seven, biohazard. All the games are called biohazard, but you said

Juke:

biohazard. I was like, that's familiar,

Unknown:

yes, because they, they, they, they don't always write biohazard. Almost more in Japan, sometimes it would say biohazard The Seventh One, it would say Resident Evil seven, biohazard, like you get on the game. Yeah? Would say that. Then the eighth came out, continuation, and now the ninth, which arguably, I think, is one of the best Resident Evil games they've ever released.

Juke:

Oh,

Unknown:

story is amazing. You can just pick it up and play it. You don't have to have ever played the other ones. Absolute banger. I would highly recommend anybody to play it if they like action. And

Juke:

do you feel like they came back to the roots, like they said they would?

Unknown:

Oh, it's the best of the best. Actually scary. You'll scare the shit out of

Juke:

you. Oh, yeah, it's scary.

Unknown:

Well, if you don't like scary, very, very intense, tense, especially right at the beginning, you're being stalked by a giant monster called the girl, and she eats your head off, and she's terrifying, and you have no weapons, and you have to hide.

Juke:

Oh my God,

Unknown:

you have nothing.

Juke:

Oh my god,

Unknown:

yeah, she's only scared of light.

Juke:

Oh,

Unknown:

so the only places when she starts chasing you is to run back to a main room where there's a light, she kind of gets burned and she runs away. And then you kind of sneak out back into the dark hallway and try to figure out your way out of the room. And then the large majority of the game is inside this like Castle, which all the games kind of do, that you have like a beginning part of the game, then a big part of the game is this giant, like Castle,

Juke:

yeah,

Unknown:

that all the doors are locked and you're trying, and you're figuring

Juke:

out, yeah, this puzzle. See, I'm better at the puzzle part, the scary part, I'm not so good at, yeah, it's

Unknown:

a mix, for sure. I mean, you're kind of like, crouching and walking around, and there's a giant chef that'll chop your head off and a giant ogre that barely fits through the walls. He like breaks the walls to fit through it because he's massive. They call him chunk. I think game's very good. And then, and it switches between Claire and Leon, the two characters

Juke:

again, Claire and Leon. Okay,

Unknown:

yes, no, this one is not with Claire. It's Leon. And a new character. Forgot her name right now. Blonde, yeah, new character. Anyways, moving forward into graphics cards.

Juke:

Wait before we get into the graphics cards. You mentioned, like briefly earlier, that, of course, easy mode exists, and blah, blah, blah, and I wanted to the non gamers out there. If you're being initiated to a game, or you're considering letting your gamer initiate you to games and stuff like that, easy mode exists on almost every game I've ever seen, and your gamer will likely be like, no, no, no, you have to play normal mode. See, I knew it. I thought all the gamers say that you're allowed to insist to at least try easy mode, or like, if they if, if your gamer gets to experience the how discouraged it can be, how discouraging you can get when you're new playing like a new game. Let them see how discouraged you get, and then be like, see next time, can we try easy mode, just so that I don't get discouraged so quickly. I'm just putting that out there and gamers that are listening, let your noobs try easy mode, just so, just so that you can get them hooked to the story or the graphics, get them hooked a little bit, and then be like, Okay, can we switch to normal mode? Now, just give it. Give it a chance.

Unknown:

What I'll say to that? I was actually gonna say, make sure you play on normal, not easy. But you're right, if you're not a gamer at all, easy mode is gonna be really fun, because you've experienced a story, you don't have to worry so much.

Juke:

Yeah,

Unknown:

there's gonna be a lot of saving points, extra saving enemies. You're gonna be way squishier. So squishy would mean like, you have a lot of health, you can take a lot of damage. Enemies are going to be not squishy, so they're going to take very little shots to kill. So it's going to make the game funner. And Resident Evil games will do things where you you're given a lot of extra ammo, sometimes infinite ammo, weapons. And what's cool about the new Resident Evil games is they use a dynamic difficulty. So dynamic difficulty works like doesn't matter. So if you choose Normal mode and you're doing really well, you have tons of ammo, you're you're you've never really died, you're barely healing, you're barely saving, the game will get harder.

Juke:

The game was, yeah,

Unknown:

the game will get harder to keep it challenging at all times. I don't know if easy mode has dynamic, but it probably does one thing. I will say if, if I had you a controller, if you play on Xbox or you're familiar with at least a controller you might be familiar with, close your eyes and I give you a button prompt. You can press that button with your eyes closed, within half a second or less, probably you're okay to play normal mode.

Juke:

Okay,

Unknown:

if you have no idea the buttons,

Juke:

that is

Unknown:

definitely the easiest difficulty, because if you're just there trying to figure out how to move the character, there's no way you're gonna play on normal mode of any

Juke:

game, right? I feel like that is the perfect explanation. And I might, I might clip that and share it on social media. Because when people, when I talk about being a forever noob, for example, people disagree, because I game. But no to this day, no, after years, if you put a remote in my hand, at my remote, I have a

Unknown:

Xbox,

Juke:

or calling it a remote. It's my thing. A controller. I have an emotional attachment controller that used to be my exes, and when we broke up, I asked him if I could keep it because I was

Unknown:

emotionally

Juke:

attached to it. Okay, was it? It's Xbox,

Unknown:

you don't know, like, Right Trigger, right bumper. AB,

Juke:

I can do right trigger, right bumper, because it's right, like, right and left, and there's only like one, but then if you tell me XYZ, or whatever that see

Unknown:

super

Juke:

I said XYZ, I can't and for years I've been gaming on this particular

Unknown:

you might be an outlier, because you could play the game on normal, because you've played,

Juke:

I have played the game on normal, But that's the thing, and I think other like gamers, I think that's also super helpful, is I played the game on normal, but I always had someone with me, someone guiding me. I didn't have to figure out everything on my own. He told me, okay, go get that planned, and then you're gonna get those two plans and they're gonna make you medicine. Like I didn't have to figure any of that out. So I was basically on easy mode because someone was holding my hand the whole time, and that made normal mode way more

Unknown:

like, you know nothing about Resident Evil, then easy might be a good start. Like, if you don't know that, you're gonna have to mix plans together, but the game tells you,

Juke:

it does.

Unknown:

It does tell you when

Juke:

you're beginner and you're doing this just to make your gamer happy, you really don't want to read everything,

Unknown:

yeah, but why play a game just to make someone else happy?

Juke:

Oh, my God, it is so worth it, though, when I learned Dota two, I learned Dota two for my ex for Valentine's Day, he cried. I surprised him. I like, he was gone for a week. I learned Dota, like, in secret, and then I had his friends, like, ready in secret to play a game with us, and he cried.

Unknown:

Okay, well,

Juke:

some people, it means a lot to them.

Unknown:

Yeah, that that, I would say, is a different because you put in the work, yeah, your appreciation and gifts is the thought that matters, yeah. So you put in the time to be like, on your it was a birthday gift. It was a Valentine's Day

Juke:

gift. Valentine's Day given.

Unknown:

Valentine's we're gonna play Dota, which is your favorite game. We're all gonna play together. Yeah, that's awesome. But to just, yeah, no, actually, I'm not gonna say to that. I will say, though, sorry to

Juke:

interrupt

Unknown:

my girlfriend, she's not a gamer,

Juke:

yeah.

Unknown:

She does like to play city skylines, which is like Sim City. It's like a city building game, you know? So she does get, like, really into it, and you keep up, like, pull her off the computer. Little does she know fortunate she is that I have these great computers run all these games she wants. And then she's like, Oh, can I download my laptop? And then she sees how terrible it runs. And anyways, and we've also played, like it takes two. We didn't play that much, but you don't need to be a gamer, I think, to be able to enjoy, like, couples, the couch Co

Juke:

Op type game.

Unknown:

Couch Co Op games, yeah, and she hates scary game, so she can't, I can't even have Resident Evil. She hates zombies, so I can't even have the game. The sound on, no, with her in the room, right? So if I hear coming downstairs, I pause the game.

Juke:

Okay?

Unknown:

It depends if we're gonna watch something, I exit the game. If she's gonna do her own thing, I'll put my headphones on, just out of respects. I don't want to scare her, you know, she can't do it, but she's not a gamer, but she has no problem with controls on, but

Juke:

she's also, and this is something I've noticed. She's also super fit, and does a lot of, like, fitness stuff, and so her her hand eye coordination and all that is very developed.

Unknown:

Okay, maybe I think

Juke:

that helps, because I've noticed, I've always had my hand eye I'm the clumsiest person everyone knows.

Unknown:

Were you ever good at, like, Guitar Hero or anything like that?

Juke:

Oh,

Unknown:

Rock Band, because that's, that's a lot of hand eye coordination.

Juke:

I never was really that great at it. And I'm super musical, you know, but I was never that great at it. But I've never had that, that hand eye like, I've always been bad at my whole life it's been like that. So it wasn't like to be expected.

Unknown:

I'm sure you remember us playing like crazy,

Juke:

yeah, well, that's the thing. And oh, okay, that that is part of of of our cousin Lord, that the podcast might be interested in. Because I do talk, I've talked a lot about couch co ops, because I'm always on a hunt for good couch co ops. And when I do talk. About couch co ops on this podcast, I talk about, like, growing up and watching my cousins play games and stuff like that. And when I talk about that, that's mainly red and his brother and sister that, because

Unknown:

then Matthew Michael, too, yeah,

Juke:

and you're, you're the cousins arguably that I saw the most growing up,

Unknown:

yes,

Juke:

so that, and I think a lot of like, my attachment to couch Co Op co ops, and my search for that type of like fun comes from growing up and living that, and my attraction to gaming, and what I do like about gaming comes from that, that feeling a community that it brought when we were kids, you know.

Unknown:

And I think a lot of the couch Co Op really changed because of online. Yeah, I mean, now you can just play online, it's better, but arguably it's worse.

Juke:

I know for me, I'm sad. I wish gaming was, and I'm not a gamer, but I wish it was what it was when I was a kid and and we were all together and sharing controllers. And, you know, I don't know that for me, is like, what I wish gaming was.

Unknown:

I still, I still do it like now, we have a tradition with my with two or three of my friends. We've done it two years in a row. Now we go up to chalet bring, usually, some type of, like emulator. So we have a, PS, one

Juke:

emulator means,

Unknown:

so I'm

Juke:

a console,

Unknown:

yeah, well, well, you know, have you heard of so there's the, there's the PS One Mini, which is like a PS One classics, like a little mini playstation one that they recently sold. When I say recently, I mean, like the last, like 10 years, okay? And it had, like, a bunch of games pre installed. It was like, Sony re releasing the PS one. It was like, PS One, classic emulator is essentially emulating a console. So you can have a computer. I'm sure you've heard like you can play PS One games on your computer. PS two, PS three, right? So an emulator would be like, what runs the game? So usually we bring, like, some sort of computer or some sort of console with PS, one games, PS two games, and 64 games, and we would just like, play

Juke:

all with controllers on the same

Unknown:

Yeah. We would either play together the same times without multiple controllers, or we just like, all sit on the couch and one person would just like, play a classic game that we all remember, remember from our childhood, and you're, you're at Saint server was where Alicia did the wedding, right? So we would go, we were at Saint Sauveur, and you're just chilling. There's nothing to do, right? You walk up the mountain once or twice, but you're just relaxing. You're like, de stressing from life disconnecting. There is internet there now, but for a long time there was no internet. So it was really like you were just chilling. So we just, we just play play games.

Juke:

Love that, because when I complain about the fact that we don't have that anymore as like in the gaming it's not as common, I'll like bunch of people in front of a one screen. You know, people always go like, Oh, but, you know, like the guys I've dated, they always do land parties. And for me, it's not the same. First of all, I'm I don't like traveling with my PC. I don't like having to replug it and unplug it so much. Well,

Unknown:

it's good having a gaming laptop,

Juke:

yeah, but these guys are always traveling. They never, I never see guys with gaming laptops in these land parties. It's always their full PC, and they're bringing foldable tables, and then the house is, like, full of tables and chairs.

Unknown:

Super fun, though.

Juke:

I totally get it, but it's, it's not 10 people in front of a TV. You know,

Unknown:

no,

Juke:

and that's like for me, land parties will never compare.

Unknown:

My earliest memories of gaming is sitting and watching someone play, like watching my brother play Zelda on Super Nintendo or PS One games, because he was always older, so it was like he he would be able to beat it,

Juke:

yeah,

Unknown:

an impossible game. Like, there was an age where the beginning level of a game that was all you played, because there was no fathoming to continue further than, like, the two things you were capable of doing, eventually you get better, or you played simple games like Street Fighter or sunlight onions,

Juke:

yeah, and

Unknown:

you all

Juke:

get together to watch the cousin that can beat the next level. We all get together we watch him beat that level that no one can beat, right,

Unknown:

yeah. And I don't know if you remember, like every year we would, in the summer, would do like, a chalet with your mom, my mom, kids would come, everyone would come, right? Yeah. And often we'd play games. I remember one chalet, Fallout three had just came out. Have you heard of Fallout?

Juke:

Yeah, I've heard of Fallout, but I don't remember

Unknown:

playing infinite. We were just glued and then one one show that we went to the Wind Waker, came out. Wind

Juke:

Waker, so Zelda The Wind Waker, oh, Zelda, my bad? Yeah,

Unknown:

that was on GameCube non stop. Just couldn't get off it. Zelda is really addicting. Because puzzle games are addicting. There's always something to do. And I feel a lot of games have lost that. I don't feel like there's many now, well, now most games that come out, it's just, how can we retain the user? As long as possible onto the game and sell them as many things as possible. We've lost the essence of, here's a game, and the game is released, and that's the game. DLC is fine. Like extra bonus content as game progresses.

Juke:

Wait, DLC

Unknown:

downloadable content?

Juke:

Oh, yeah, expansion

Unknown:

packs.

Juke:

Yeah, yeah, right. So, okay, so recently, in an episode, I explained them patches DLC are not patches like they don't like patches are

Unknown:

like

Juke:

updates. You can't play the game unless you've updated. If it's an online game, yes,

Unknown:

or patches are to fix things,

Juke:

yeah, but, but downloadable content or a DLC is going to be more add ons that not everybody has to have

Unknown:

no no sometimes it'll be an extra story. Sometimes, some games, like, for example, Destiny, which is a free game. Now, wouldn't used to be free. You had the first version of the game. Then instead of releasing Destiny two, they release an expansion pack. You'd pay the expansion it'd be like 80 bucks, like a full game, but it would just extend the game. It would be a very big and very long some games will have a little DLC. It'll just be like a little extra story, a couple hours of play, or even less, a lot of games. These days, DLC just means, like, a skin, or do they pay $1 like, Call of Duty and loot boxes, those are the worst in terms of, like, you know,

Juke:

loot boxes is kind of, I'm if I'm remembering, it's like, at our den, like a surprise bag. Yeah, right. Like you would, you don't know what's going to be in it. You buy it for the rush of of the surprise basically,

Unknown:

yeah. So a lot of games are really pushed the dopamine hit the loot box. These the Season Pass, yeah, Season Pass giving you that FOMO,

Juke:

yeah.

Unknown:

You know, fear of missing out. So you're like, Oh, the seasons continuing. I want to get the end of the pass. I want to finish it unlock all the things.

Juke:

Yeah. What he's saying here is Season Passes is like, instead of buying the game one shot, it's a monthly you have to pay monthly, right?

Unknown:

You don't always need, yeah, they want you to buy every time there's a new season, it's not a monthly thing. Sometimes a new

Juke:

Okay, that's not what I'm thinking about. Like, some games, like, I think world of World of Warcraft, that's not a season pass.

Unknown:

No World of Warcraft would actually be paid to actually play the game. Okay?

Juke:

So season passes for extra

Unknown:

Season Pass, a lot of times it'll be part of the online a lot of online games have season passes like, you know, just play and get and level up in the game, and then you'll unlock extra things.

Juke:

Okay, those don't cost necessarily money.

Unknown:

A lot of times they have the free part. So it'll be like 100 levels to a season pass.

Juke:

Yeah,

Unknown:

those 100 levels you'll have like, 10 or 20 free, free, see, free, like unlocks. So you can go from like, level one to level five in the Season Pass. Out of 100 level five, if you don't pay, you'll get something for free. Odd level five, if you paid the $30 or whatever it is, you'll unlock something level one, level two, level three, level four, you'll unlock something at every

Juke:

100

Unknown:

levels. Okay, I remember heart stone,

Juke:

yeah? Like I had my own leveling things, my own rewards, but if I paid I had better and extra rewards.

Unknown:

Yeah? And you get better stuff usually, yeah, cooler skins, all the stuff you can you can flex upon all your friends that you spent money on the game. And like a good example of where gaming is going, is the new game skate right?

Juke:

Never heard it. So skateboard game,

Unknown:

skateboarding game, skate four. So they had skate one, SK two, skate, three on that was all on PS three and Xbox 360 those games revolutionized skateboarding games, because before it was Tony Hawk,

Juke:

yeah,

Unknown:

you would press X to ollie square, and it would do a flip trick, triangle to dry grind. And then eventually it turned into a game where you're grinding on like, power lines and triple back flipping, like, unrealistic stuff. Yeah, so skate brought skateboarding to its basics. Now, you didn't press X to do Ollie. You flicked the analog stick down and then up really fast, like a real skateboard, and then it would do all these. The game was, like, very hard. So like

Juke:

before, before skate, other skateboard games just copied Tony Hawk's game.

Unknown:

Yeah. I mean, you pretty much only had Tony Hawk. Okay,

Juke:

there was no other

Unknown:

there was clones, but they never really stuck.

Juke:

Okay, okay,

Unknown:

not like Tony Hawk did, and that kind of killed the Tony Hawk Pro Skater franchise when skate came out. So skate, 123, amazing games, no deal. CBS, maybe they had a couple little extra things, but those, that was the PS three, those the early days of gaming, where you bought a game and you have the entire game a story. Skate four, they were like, Finally, we're coming back. It's been 15 years since the skate game. You guys been asking for it. We're bringing it back. Oh, my God. The you know, the heaven is coming to earth for escape fans,

Juke:

yeah, free

Unknown:

to play. Oh, my God, now it's starting. So you can't buy the game. The game is free.

Juke:

What

Unknown:

does it mean? Free? Nothing in life is free.

Juke:

Yeah?

Unknown:

So the game is just packed with buy, buy, buy, and you don't. There's no story. It's always online game. There's no it's not even a game. It's so boring. It's they destroyed the game. They could have done they could have made so much money. They could, you know what, they're probably making more

Juke:

money now, because

Unknown:

there's a reason why

Juke:

they're doing that.

Unknown:

Yeah, call, I think Call of Duty makes a couple million a month.

Juke:

Ish,

Unknown:

selling Battle Pass, which is a season pass. They call the Battle Pass, skins and all that. Bs, the game is free. Call duty is free.

Juke:

Yeah,

Unknown:

the online game, yeah. Sorry, not in the multiplayer, but like war zone and Battle Royale, that's free.

Juke:

Yeah, they

Unknown:

make all their money from that. Most people don't even buy the Black Ops seven or eight that they're out. I think eight, I'm not sure, because you could buy the game for 100 bucks, get the story mode and everything. People just play online with their friends, and usually it's Battle Royale.

Juke:

But wait, because you in the last skate you said there's no story. And I gotta admit, this is fully my biases. I've watched you play many skate games when we were kids, never have I realized there was a story to this game.

Unknown:

Yeah, it's full story. Like, like, you're you're an up and coming skater, and you're trying to get known, and the guy's trying to film you, and there's all these objectives, and there's an actual story to it. And they actually put pro skateboarders in the game. You'd walk up to them, you'd skate to them, talk to them and be like, Oh, it's Tony Hawk or bamar Jara or Nigel Houston, or maybe in the later games, Nigel Houston, because he was a kid. And, you know, you, you know, Andrew Reynolds, come up to that and be like, oh, man, do this flip, and we're gonna take a crazy photo. And then you get, like, a, like, a prize, and you continue through the story right in the new one. I mean, it's just like, oh, collect the coins.

Juke:

Interesting. Because for me, watching you play as a kid at skateboarding games,

Unknown:

yeah,

Juke:

was a lot like when I would sit outside and watch you skateboard. I was watching because it was fun to watch the trick. Yes, you know. So when I watched you play the game, I was watching for the tricks. I never realized that the story,

Unknown:

yeah, Tony Hawk Pro Skater, until they got to the underground games. Tony Hawk underground, there wasn't a story, but it was objectives that was okay for the time. And when I say, Okay, I don't mean to put it lightly, the games were outstanding. I mean, it put Tony Hawk on the map. It put skateboarding on the map. It literally brought skateboarding to the masses, and that was what Tony Hawk wanted to do. When he brought he didn't make the game. It was a never soft, but he came in as a consultant, and not only put his name on it, but made the game what it is. The never soft people weren't skateboarders, but they learned how to skateboard, and they, they, they, they enveloped themselves in skateboarding, right? That was, those are PS One games on PS two. They released tonyaka Underground, which had a whole story where you were, like, this underground skater and your friend eventually, like, steals your super video that's going to make you a millionaire because you did a McTwist over a helicopter. And

Juke:

wait, is McTwist actually?

Unknown:

Yes, make twist. So it's a it's like a 360 and I think a front flip at the same time.

Juke:

I love.

Unknown:

So you do a McTwist between two buildings, ridiculous, not realistic, over a helicopter, and it's all on video, and your friend steals the tape and says that was me. No. And so now the story goes from

Juke:

he's a story I'm invested,

Unknown:

yeah, so, so beginning the first few levels, it's you progressing and then hitting that super trick and then finding out that your friend stole it. And now he's the famous millionaire, but he's not even that good of a skater. I mean, he was okay. Skater.

Juke:

I mean, he was

Unknown:

okay, redeeming yourself. These things happen

Juke:

because it's so doable, because I've watched plenty, because I grew up watching you skate. So I enjoy watching YouTube skateboarders, even though I've never skateboarded and and when you watch them, the camera has to be really far away to catch that flip in the air from them to the ground, so they're so tiny, little, tiny, little spikes.

Unknown:

Could have been anyone, yeah? I mean, the way the game, I mean, it's a game you have to

Juke:

have, like, your signature bike with flashy colors if you really, really want people to be able to spot you.

Unknown:

And he's, you know, at the time, you're, you're, you're not known,

Juke:

yeah,

Unknown:

so could have been anyone. And, you know, you're jumping between two buildings and a helicopter. Yeah, that was the first one. Second one was a whole bad marjara game, you know, bad Margera.

Juke:

No, is that a skateboarder? Yes,

Unknown:

but he was also, he played Viva la bam. He also played in jackass, if you watched it, you know, jackass,

Juke:

jackass. Yeah, okay,

Unknown:

he's one of the main guys. Is really, yeah. So you have Johnny Knoxville, bamar Gera, there's a couple main he's definitely part of the main crew. He was the crazy one who made a lot of money very young, and was very reckless and did a lot of crazy shit. Back then. You can do anything on TV. Now, you can't get away with anything.

Juke:

But

Unknown:

the point is that the second underground game was all about by marjara. Was wasn't that great? Super cringe. Now looking back, you want to just shoot yourself watching so cringe. But they tried anyways, getting back into skate, skate four, it's called a live service game, so you have to be online to play it.

Juke:

Okay, wait, wait,

Unknown:

yeah, live. I've

Juke:

never heard live service before.

Unknown:

Live service would mean the game is always online. It doesn't exist if the servers are offline,

Juke:

okay?

Unknown:

And usually those types of games means you. The game is not a product. You are the product. The product is you, right? Most games are like that. These days, though, you are the product. They are finding a way to get you on the game and sell you whatever it is, either giving you ads, showing you ads, or selling you downloadable content. There's games

Juke:

that show you ads and in game,

Unknown:

maybe some games, but I just mean in general. So like YouTube, sorry to interrupt YouTube.

Juke:

Yeah, you're the product. You're

Unknown:

you are the Tiktok. You are the product you but

Juke:

I didn't see that in games, because what are they getting? Because I'm not seeing ads in games, what if I'm not spending money? How they will analyze

Unknown:

you might not see ads directly. So maybe in a game like

Juke:

skate placement, you

Unknown:

might, you'll see product placements, for sure. You'll also very, very much see Season Pass,

Juke:

yeah,

Unknown:

skins for the skate game, downloadable things, extra maps to be like, Oh, you have the free game. It's all great, but you want the new map that just recently released, that I didn't even open the game, because I heard you had to pay to get the map, yeah, which is actually the good map that everyone wants? Yeah, of course. And now you got to pay for

Juke:

it.

Unknown:

And so live service supposed to be cool, because, like, oh, the seasons change, and we make updates, and the game is always changing. That's great. So we don't even have a game. It's not even

Juke:

a game. Yeah?

Unknown:

It's a suck your life and your wallet product. So it hurts to see that, and that's why, when new games like Resident Evil come out, not only they do really well, but it keeps you hooked and you feel good and you play it because it's a game. By the game you play it, there is like, a, you know, deluxe edition. They people have been doing that for years, you know, like, oh, pay a little extra and get, like, extra skins. You know,

Juke:

that's a little more normal. Yeah,

Unknown:

be able to play the game one day earlier than everyone that I don't really like. But anyways, they do that. But, um, yeah.

Juke:

But just before we move on too much from live service, because I'm, I'm still learning it, what, what you're describing. A lot of games now are live service, no or does so is that just like a tag that like died because now we're just calling them online games, or is that like a tag that people actually use?

Unknown:

Yeah? Live service? Yeah, oh yeah. Everyone uses live that's what they would call it. So skate would be considered live service, Call of Duty, World of Battle Royale, live service. World of crap. Definitely. I don't think people really called it that it is a live service games, if the servers are offline, there's no game to play,

Juke:

so that, basically, any game that if the servers are offline, you can't play, that's live service. No,

Unknown:

I'm not a super expert. I'm gonna say yes,

Juke:

okay,

Unknown:

in general. But when people mostly talk about these days a live service game, you're generally talking about that fact, and also most of the time, it's coupled with the game being free, and free is in major air quotes, because, yeah, it is far from free, right? Just like these mobile games, right? You download the

Juke:

game, yeah,

Unknown:

and it's like, you get a little bit and then it's like, Oh, wait 30 minutes to do the next thing, or click this button and watch an ad,

Juke:

right? Yeah,

Unknown:

you are the product, right? How about this? Pay me sorry, give me a price, $10

Juke:

and then leave me alone.

Unknown:

Give me the game.

Juke:

Yeah,

Unknown:

right. So games are great when I could just buy the game, but doesn't make as much money, apparently. I mean, like I said, Call of Duty makes, like, I think 10 million a month

Juke:

off of those. I'm sure fortnight's the same.

Unknown:

Yeah, Roblox is absolutely killing it, and it's, I think it's free, but it's not really free. You know, kids are still daddy mommy's credit card and they're buying stuff. But Roblox not too bad. ROBLOX has its own problems, like predators who play the game and chat with

Juke:

Yeah, stuff

Unknown:

like that. So that's a problem.

Juke:

I haven't like, I feel like, if I do address Roblox on this podcast, I want a parent. That has, like a gaming child, like an educated parent with me on the pod, you know, to really like, if ever I'm going to address Rob Roblox, which I feel like someday I do I want, like an an informed parent on,

Unknown:

maybe you can have a kid and then,

Juke:

yeah, something that like a team, because the kids guitar. Yeah, exactly. So like, that is on my mind, but it's gonna take more effort to

Unknown:

achieve that. There's a lot of problems with Roblox, a lot of problems with

Juke:

discord,

Unknown:

in terms of predators on Discord and other type of content that is illegal that is shared on Discord. Oh yeah, I can't say the words I could say, CP, that's all I can say, Do you know what it means?

Juke:

Yeah,

Unknown:

there's a lot of that on this chord. I

Juke:

did not know, but

Unknown:

yeah, yeah, that's like one of the main places,

Juke:

encrypted or

Unknown:

no, because it's very easy to create a server, very easy for the world to be able to just, you go on, you can, you can go on a website just has every server, and you just type in keywords. So you can just type in the people in those places. Know the keywords they type in,

Juke:

sneaky words like drugs have their own names,

Unknown:

yes, and then you can exact Exactly,

Juke:

yeah,

Unknown:

substances you can buy through discord. I had not realized Cash App or whatever. And the problem is that sometimes people will invade servers and then post all that stuff on

Juke:

these invaded servers. That's awful. Yeah. I think from what I understand, you can make a server that's not right, okay. But because I recently did an episode trying to explain a bit discord to non gamers, I did not know about all those issues, and my explanation was very like,

Unknown:

I think the easiest way to explain discord for non gamers is it's, it's a gaming Skype. Everyone knows Skype.

Juke:

I compared it to Skype or

Unknown:

face timing teams. There it is. Yeah, so I would say teams, because everyone uses teams now.

Juke:

But the analogy that I use because I'm like, let's say someone really doesn't know those programs, the analogy I used, and now, I guess I'm repeating myself, but I compared it to like, Discord being a city and servers being houses and businesses, whereas, like in those houses, there's rooms, and you have access to those rooms unless the owner of the house has put restrictions,

Unknown:

amazing and

Juke:

and whenever you're in a house, you're always in a room, whether it's the entrance or, you know, you're Always in a general chat, or you're always in a something, you know. So that's kind of what I used, and I hope it helps,

Unknown:

yeah,

Juke:

people understand

Unknown:

you have, like, a house, general rooms, I'm usually everyone has access to, and it's chat, and then you have voice,

Juke:

yeah,

Unknown:

that it's, but it's what made a difference, is what you is that in discord, you don't call people,

Juke:

no, you

Unknown:

just could. But it's usually like, open chat rooms.

Juke:

Yeah, you stay there, and then when sometimes someone shows up, in and

Unknown:

out,

Juke:

like, you show yourself, being like, Hey, I'm here now, if everyone, someone wants to show up, I'm yeah, you know,

Unknown:

yeah, I haven't been in discord for a while. I used to play a lot, especially during covid, a lot of Call of Duty war zone. So we'd always the chat would be maxed out, like 20 people in one room, and we'd all be playing, and, you know, obviously it's squads of four, and so we'd have multiple chats. Yeah, there'd always be, like, one main where everyone's talking. And sometimes you may not even be playing a game. You just pop in, you know, or you're playing, no one's online. You just pop in just to say, Hey, I'm online, and then it just slowly starts filling up. It's like a restaurant. You walk by a restaurant and there's no one in there. A lot of times you don't walk in either.

Juke:

Yeah,

Unknown:

you're hungry, you're looking there's six restaurants choose from. Why is this one empty and then this other one that's packed? And maybe you don't want to go in the packed one, but you're intrigued. You're like, why is everyone in there? So for me, when I look for a restaurant, I'll go for, like, a medium,

Juke:

yeah,

Unknown:

medium pack. But sometimes you walk to an empty restaurant, you're the only only one there, and you keep feel kind of shy. You're like, oh, like, first thing, are they open? What's going on? Like, I'm the only one there, and it's eyes on you, like, even the chef, like, turns around. Like, oh shit, we got it. Oh

Juke:

no, it's okay.

Unknown:

Customer,

Juke:

yeah, I cuss on my podcast. It's fine. But, um, that's what you're saying. Is also true, because of people not wanting to be the first one, the only one there. My if the listeners have listened to previous episodes, there's I did an episode among us. I had a group that I was playing a lot with, and we would say, like, we log on at like, meet up at seven. You know, you I could tell the people did not want to be the first ones, because my boyfriend and I would log on, you know, it's 705, we log on. Everyone's just waiting.

Unknown:

It always happens, yeah, I'll see you at seven. And then people are like,

Juke:

they're just waiting. They don't

Unknown:

want to be the Yeah, maybe they're eating or they're hanging around, like, oh, well, no one's in the server yet, so I guess we're delayed. And then all of a sudden, there's one, then two,

Juke:

yeah, everyone.

Unknown:

And then the FOMO kicks in. You're like, oh shit, log in. Yeah, yeah, I'll be there in two minutes. Let me just start on my computer. Don't, don't, like, hop in without me. You know, among us is not bad, because I think you could be a lot of people

Juke:

at once. Yeah, you can be, like, up to 15, but I've never been able to get up to Call of

Unknown:

Duty. Was different. Friends.

Juke:

It's four at a time,

Unknown:

four max at a time. So

Juke:

you want to be there not too late.

Unknown:

If you want to play with certain people, you see them online, you better log in before it packs up with someone else. And then you're kicked off and you're on the side squad that like the secondary choice squad, let's say yeah, and going into graphics cards, because we were talking about Resident Evil,

Juke:

yes, you mentioned something about that.

Unknown:

Nvidia recently released. They did a showcase of dlss Five.

Juke:

Okay, wait, wait, Nvidia, to start off with, is a company that makes hardware for computers,

Unknown:

yeah,

Juke:

or specifically only graphics cards.

Unknown:

I think they

Juke:

do other things in

Unknown:

graphics.

Juke:

Oh, really. Okay, well, they make graphics cards, and maybe more, who knows? I

Unknown:

think they only do graphics cards, a lot, but not necessarily all for gaming. Some are for now, especially AI or video editing, specialized server equipment, you know, mostly just graphics processors. So they recently released a demo of dlss Five. What dlss is,

Juke:

yeah,

Unknown:

it's so the word the name is called Deep Learning super sampling. Okay,

Juke:

that learning super sampling,

Unknown:

yes, but it doesn't matter.

Juke:

What everyone

Unknown:

knows is dlss and AMD has FSR.

Juke:

AMD is another company, and FSR, who cares

Unknown:

is, is like, dlss, right?

Juke:

And that's, that's like a tag that's on a graphics card,

Unknown:

no. So what the LSS does is, if the game supports it, let's say you're playing a game at 4k

Juke:

okay,

Unknown:

right? So high resolution, yeah, and your PC, it's not running very well,

Juke:

okay?

Unknown:

Because you need a better graphics card, usually, and the game is really intense. And

Juke:

normally, what happens there is that your frame rate,

Unknown:

yeah, your frame rate is low, your FPS is low, your frames are low. You know, you're getting like, 30 frames at 4k you low, you put all the settings on low. Doesn't make a difference, okay? What dlss does is it says, Okay, your game is 4k we're going to actually render, we're going to render the entire game at 10 ADP, so a quarter of the resolution,

Juke:

okay?

Unknown:

And then we're going to use AI or other tricks to then upscale it to 4k so you can barely tell the difference. Say, oh my god, it looks like 4k

Juke:

okay,

Unknown:

so you're playing at 4k but in the background is doing special tricks, which makes the game actually run at 1080p, which your PC can probably very well play very well. Okay, so it gives you huge boosts in frame rates.

Juke:

Okay,

Unknown:

now there was dlss one, dlss, 234, 4.5 all the different iterations in between that improved upon it the first. Dlss, you know, you saw weird jagged edges. Hair would look kind of like ghosty and weird things would happen because it's upscaling. It's not perfect. It's not just doing one thing and everything's perfect looking at a fence so a fence could look all ghosty and weird because it's downscaling and upscaling in real time.

Juke:

Okay? And that would be the fault of the dlss, not the game,

Unknown:

not not game. No. This follow dlss and the latest dlss I released. 4.5 is outstanding. You can barely tell with it on or off. Oh, yeah, okay, okay. So you that if you have a 4k screen, you don't want to be playing under 4k you don't want to play it at 1080p It's gonna look terrible,

Juke:

really,

Unknown:

yeah,

Juke:

I thought you don't want to look is like I can go up to 4k No, if

Unknown:

you have a 4k any screen you have, you always ideally want to play at the native resolution. So if it's a 1080p screen, play at 1080p Okay, if it's a 1440 p screen, you play at 1440 P 4k monitors can play on 1440 P and look very good, still. But when you go down 1080p it just looks terrible, I would say, arguably worse than just a native 1080p screen. So you don't want to lower the resolution.

Juke:

Okay,

Unknown:

you you'll enable dlss. Everything stays the same. The game looks amazing and it's running sometimes double the speed. Well,

Juke:

that's like enabling DSS is something you have to go in your computer settings

Unknown:

or the games in the game, yeah, you would go to graphics dlss on, and then you have performance mode or medium, pretty much. You have like different modes. You have like performance so the game will run as hard as possible, as fast as possible, but it's not going to look that good. And then you have quality mode, where it'll it'll look as close to 4k as possible and a small boost. So each have different boosts, a different and dlss 4.5 the latest one.

Juke:

Yeah,

Unknown:

you can go to performance mode, and it looks just as good as previous generations in quality mode, right? So you're getting huge boost in performance, and it looks amazing quality mode. Is, is, is, like you can bear, you can't even, you can barely tell the difference, right? And it does a lot of things. Dlss Five, the latest demo they did. Did they demoed Resident Evil nine

Juke:

look when they were launching it? That's the example. It

Unknown:

was a little bit later. Yeah, after the game launched, I said, Nvidia has a keynote every year. They do like an event, and they're like, on what we're working on, the LSS five before and after, and when they would turn it on, the game looked completely different. I mean, all of a sudden, the girl had lipstick on, and her eyes were bright, and the face everything was different. AI was kind of like trying to make it prettier. People were saying, like, Nvidia said we didn't use any AI filtered technology. I don't know yet,

Juke:

really, but

Unknown:

there was a lot, yeah, there was a lot of content. I thought it looked better, but I understand that it took away from the from the original game. It's

Juke:

supposed to make it look like what the game's supposed to look like, not enhance or whatever. It's

Unknown:

supposed to be able to just have better performance. Yeah, and, and, but this time it it, it used dynamic, but they said it was all lighting. The lighting is incredible in dlss Five. So it uses, I don't know what it does, but it turns games looking from old games to, like, almost photo realistic. It's actually unbelievable. And I'll send you the demo you can watch at a later date. It's like two minutes long. It shows you a bunch of games befores and afters, and you'll see what

Juke:

I'm talking about. But you can't, like, put an OG Zelda through dlss and it looked pictured. They're

Unknown:

kind of saying, yes,

Juke:

what?

Unknown:

So right now, it's really easy to add dlss to any game that was coded in Unreal Engine. A lot of games are made under Unreal Engine, and you can just literally drop a file in, and now it has dlss enabled.

Juke:

And for the listeners out there, game engines is something I do want to address someday, like it's going to be its own episode. But what is, what did you say? Real engine?

Unknown:

Unreal.

Juke:

Unreal Engine, yeah, that's like a program that people use to help them make games so that they won't have to do it all from scratch. If I'm dumbing it down, but there will be eventually, like, a full episode on game engines.

Unknown:

Yeah, Unreal Engine is probably one of the most popular ones. Essentially, you can use their engine for free. You can make your game. When you publish the game, I think you have to pay them like 30% of every of all your earnings, something like that. Yeah. Which the real winner is whoever made, you know, the company that made Unreal Engine, they're the ones that are winning, because there are so many games running on Unreal Engine, and you as like a just a regular person, can actually make amazing games, beautiful looking games with all the modern features. It looks like you have a whole team because you're using Unreal Engine. Yeah, some companies make their own engines, like Resident Evil, that's called the RE engine. They have their own engine a settle Corsa is a racing game that I play. They have their own engines, which is a racing engine, right? That does all the physics for cars. They make their own. There are racing games on Unreal Engine, right? But Unreal Engine is very easy to spot. They have certain things that they do, and then the performance is not that great. It's getting better. Yeah, Unreal Engine is not really known for great performance, but it's getting better. Dlss just makes everything great. So big controversy, controversy with dlss Five, and the big thing is, will it run on all graphics cards? Right? So you need an Nvidia graphics card, but if you only have, like, the generation that came out a few years ago, sometimes they like, lock you out. They say, Oh, you're gonna get the dlss five, but you won't have the new AI upscale, Bs thing included. You need to buy the fifth Gen, which is the latest one, the 5000 series, or the 6000 maybe is gonna come out next, which is great, but AI is really causing a lot of problems.

Juke:

Yeah, of course,

Unknown:

because prices are going up significantly, I don't know if you noticed computer, yeah, prices parts for computer.

Juke:

That's why

Unknown:

anything RAM

Juke:

originally for, like, a little like, behind the scenes, for the listeners out there, when red and I were trying to decide what we were going to talk about today, the idea Absinthe had pitched that we would talk about graphics cards. And one of the reasons he wanted us to talk about graphics cards and stuff like that is, you know, addressing like, the pricing and why gamers are, you know, and eventually we will address that. But I totally understand,

Unknown:

apparently, this ram shortage bubble is going to pop, and is already starting to pop and prices are starting to come down, though Samsung did recently say they're raising prices again by 30% but in general, this ram pocalypse, people call it

Juke:

rampocalypse. I love it.

Unknown:

It's not just ram the issue. So RAM would be like the memory on your computer, not your hard drive space, but the memory, it's hard to really explain, but

Juke:

we'll dive deeper in whatever

Unknown:

that RAM skyrocket in price. The thing is, RAM, or these storage chips, are on everything. They're not just on RAM. They're on your graphics card. They're on your SSDs, your storage like. Your not your hard drives, your solid state drives, but for the noobs, they're on your hard drives, essentially. So when RAM goes up, graphics cards go up, they double, they triple, your storage doubles and triples. So now buying a one terabyte of space instead of costing 100 bucks, now cost 200 bucks, your phone goes up in price. Your laptop goes and goes up in price, because all the chips are soldered on. All the phones have RAM and storage so that compound effects. Yeah, everything goes up. And it's been a real pain to build computers, because one of the things I do that I've been doing for a few years is I flip computers.

Juke:

Yeah,

Unknown:

right. So I scour marketplace for people who do their ads poorly. They're under pricing, what it is, or they're generally, usually it's really bad description, bad photos, and you're the first one to message them. I'm not scamming people. I just see the value,

Juke:

yeah,

Unknown:

and I can tell that it's worth more. And a lot of times these deals the computers, I feel terrible for anybody else in the world that would have bought it, except for

Juke:

me, yeah?

Unknown:

Because, you know, I know, yeah, I buy these computers, and they're built poorly, very, badly maintained. And if they would have sold it to anyone, they would have never been able to get it working.

Juke:

Yeah,

Unknown:

I will take a computer, not only clean it internally, usually rewire it, usually maintain it, fix it up, change all the things have to be changed, make it look gamery A lot of times. I'll just add RGB fans that people go crazy. Yeah. And then install Windows properly, install Microsoft Office and make really beautiful Facebook ads, right? Yeah,

Juke:

you're good at that,

Unknown:

videos and everything. And I'm able to take a computer that maybe I paid 400 and I generally try to make $200 profit. So yeah, for two hours of work, $100 an hour, you know, you go, pick up the computer, come back, reinstall Windows. That's the lucky side. Sometimes it takes a little longer. Sometimes it's a bit of money. But flipping computer is very possible. If you know how the inside of a computer works, yeah, you can. I through it pretty much, because I have my business. It's only seasonal. So during the winter, I made most of all the the money I made to sustain my living was just buying and selling computers. There was times where I had like four four usually was buying and selling about four to five computers a week.

Juke:

Oh, wow,

Unknown:

right, so at 200 a pop, some of my best sales were I made $700 on one computer, because it was just a smoking deal. Yeah, 600 on one most of the time is just 200 sometimes 150 sometimes you just break even.

Juke:

Yeah,

Unknown:

laptops are the worst. Anyways, we won't get to buy laptops, yes, because two reasons, wear and tear. They're usually in poor condition, and people are very anal about, oh, there's a little scratch here. Scratch there, versus a desktop. People don't really care. I bought in computers with a dent on the side, and I just hammered a dent out. There's a slight dip. I post a photo, say there's a little dip here. No one cares.

Juke:

Last

Unknown:

time, we got half a scratch and we were like, oh, I want a 50 bucks off because it's scratched right here,

Juke:

and

Unknown:

I get it because you're staring at it all day, especially when there's a scratch on the screen, the keyboards will scratch the screens. So a used laptop, you open the screen and it's all scratched, and you can't really tell, but sometimes on the screen is white,

Juke:

yeah,

Unknown:

you see the scratches the indents of the keyboard. And the second thing is, if a laptop has problems. It's very expensive to fix. A lot of times it's happened before I buy a computer for $200 and it needs a new motherboard, and the motherboard$600 so pretty much, it's a paperweight. It's useless.

Juke:

Yeah,

Unknown:

throw it out a window. No one's gonna repair it. You can't even give it away, and sometimes I've had to break even by selling it in a fashion like, okay, it runs. It's fine, but there's no audio,

Juke:

yeah?

Unknown:

So I'll sell it the price I paid it, you know, in very good condition, cleaned, working, saying the audio doesn't work,

Juke:

yeah?

Unknown:

But you could use a USB audio card.

Juke:

Yeah, exactly.

Unknown:

And then some guy was a programmer, is like, Oh, I just need the computer. It's a really good price audio. I don't care. I have a USB,

Juke:

and they'll grab it

Unknown:

and I get out of it. But when I bought it, trust me, the audio was supposed to be working, right? So it's easy to get screwed desktop. I mean, there's so many parts you can change. If one thing is broken, you just replace it.

Juke:

Yeah, right.

Unknown:

This

Juke:

is why I call you my computer Messiah, because you can help it. You're like, we're talking about, I don't know what now we're talking about building computers. And then you said, Okay, we're gonna move on. And you know, but wait, don't buy laptops. Yeah,

Unknown:

I don't want to drown the the viewer. And

Juke:

I love it,

Unknown:

yeah, yeah. Well, I mean, look, if, if there is a podcast that goes deeper into computer hardware, definitely you can call me. I could, yeah, a lot to say.

Juke:

I think it'll be interesting eventually to address those, those topics, yeah. So before we end the episode, what I do at the end of all my episodes is that I offer the guests if they want to plug. If not, I plug people in my life, because normally, my guests don't have anything they want to plug, but you you do. I mean, you have your own business.

Unknown:

Well, I have my own business. I was thinking of plugging someone

Juke:

else you can

Unknown:

Okay, I'm gonna plug something that is going to be more effective, because your viewers might come from all the way around the world.

Juke:

I know so far, I'm plugging only Montreal things because I want to give love to friends and family. You know,

Unknown:

I agree and and I I'm trying to think, I'll probably go with me, Vanya again, essentially, if you're looking to get so a lot of times, personal training is local, right? You're there, you're in person. What she offers is online coaching.

Juke:

Oh, okay, so you know, when I plugged me Vanya and discord, I did not know that

Unknown:

exactly. So she offers online coaching. You can, you can find her website, me, Vanya henry.com Yeah, it's

Juke:

going to be in the description,

Unknown:

yeah, that would be m, I, V, A, N, I, a, H, E, N, R, y.com ivanya henry.com and she offers online coaching. So either you can just buy, you know, you would get in contact with her, tell her what your needs are, and she can make a custom program for you. But more important, if you're new at the gym, you're uncertain. You just need help. You need guidance. She can do video calls, phone calls, you know, FaceTime, all that while you're there working out or after your workout, some questions, form check and then modify programs, everything. And the prices are very good, especially compared to in person training. Right in person training, it's about $60 a session here, for a small monthly fee, you can have you know, someone who's essentially following you around at a distance and helping you through your fitness journey. I

Juke:

love that because I've been wanting to comfort because your mom, my my aunt, goes to see me, Vanya. I see her on Instagram all the time. I love it, but I've been wanting to see me, Vanya, but I live so far, I hadn't even considered that there might be an online Yes,

Unknown:

yeah, if you wanted to just get started, even if you didn't want to go to the gym, you just wanted to work out at home and just just some advice. Well, yeah, some people, they work out at home, they have a couple weights. Yeah, you don't need weights. A gym is always best, because the environment is way more motivating. Absolutely, I'll tell you, anyone that's ever trained take a weight that you do, let's say you do 40 pounds, bench press whatever. Do that exact same weight at home, I guarantee you it's gonna feel at least double the weight. You feel so much heavier. And it's just everything is harder. It's less motivating. During covid. I will tell you, everything was a grind. Things that were easy at the gym, it's the home has so many distractions.

Juke:

Yeah, well, I suck at working out at home, but I've never tried to compare. But for sure, I'm always more motivated at the gym just the fact that there's other people. Yes, and when I took kickboxing, I remember my coach in kickboxing would, would really put the accent on that. I think, after having been through him, I realized that I had this effect at the gym where he would tell us, don't give up, because you're influencing everyone else in the class to give up.

Unknown:

Oh, that's good.

Juke:

And so he's like, he created this motivation in us to keep to push our limits by by thinking about everyone else, you know, being like, I'm keeping the vibe alive and stuff like that. He was also like, I call him a wholesome, hard ass.

Unknown:

It's true.

Juke:

But yeah, I ever since him, I it changed my vision. Because even at the gym, I'm like, it's true. The fact that they're they keep going, makes me want to keep going. The people at the gym, you know,

Unknown:

and you're there,

Juke:

yeah?

Unknown:

And, like, you took the time to travel there,

Juke:

yeah, you showed up for yourself.

Unknown:

You're, you're, you're like, it's very a lot of times they're working out, and be like, Man, I just want to just stop right now. And when you're home, is that easy? You literally put the weight down, and you can walk three steps, and there's a couch.

Juke:

Yeah,

Unknown:

when you're at the gym, you're like, I came all the way here. What's one more set? What's one more exercise? Let's just do it. I'm all the way here. It's gonna take me 20 minutes to

Juke:

get home. And gamers out there, I know I say this all the time, I mention it, and I'm not gonna stop you're. Physical health will improve your game?

Unknown:

Yes,

Juke:

absolutely. So like, go, go see me. Vanya, it will improve your game.

Unknown:

Not only that, but if you're unhealthy because you don't exercise and you have a shorter lifespan, it's just less gaming,

Juke:

exactly,

Unknown:

less gaming time. So

Juke:

many reasons to go see me? Vanya,

Unknown:

yeah. I mean, look, even if it's not me Vanya, it's just

Juke:

no, no, me, Vanya only,

Unknown:

yes, exactly. Exercise. Go for walks at the minimum, try not to sit too much. And, you know, have a healthier life. And gaming, you'll not only be better at games, but you'll have more time to play. People think you go to the gym, oh, my God, it's two hours. Two hours less the game. But

Juke:

a life,

Unknown:

quality of life,

Juke:

yeah,

Unknown:

is more important than anything.

Juke:

Absolutely, over,

Unknown:

over, over, anything. Health is everything. Health is wealth. Money cannot buy health. Look at my uncle right there, who just passed away from bone cancer. Yeah, all the money in the world cannot help anybody.

Juke:

Yeah,

Unknown:

health is everything,

Juke:

absolutely.

Unknown:

So think about that while you're ponying noobs, that it's that, and it doesn't have to be big. Go for 20 minute walk. Walking is actually extremely effective for health and

Juke:

people listen to red, he's fit as fuck.

Unknown:

I don't know. I mean,

Juke:

yeah, he's just being. He's just being.

Unknown:

All I will say is, what you see people do at the gym is usually overkill, like when someone goes to the gym to be super jacked, and blah, blah, blah, blah, and all the muscle you're wearing yourself down. If you just want to stay healthy, walking, running, biking, if you have very low muscle mass, it's dangerous. Definitely pick up a few weights. You don't have to go heavy. That's going to increase your health significantly. Yeah, along with other things, we won't get too much into it, but no one's asking you to be you know, Chris Hemsworth, but some level of movement is always good, and you just feel amazing. Absolutely. You do a little bit exercise, and then you sit down, and you go to game with your friends, and you just feel great versus like, you know, obviously we love McDonald's. It's great to be McDonald's, but after a while you just feel like,

Juke:

yeah, it's like shit.

Unknown:

You feel like crap

Juke:

Absolutely,

Unknown:

because you know you're not doing the right thing,

Juke:

yeah?

Unknown:

And it helps with that little boost. Then that one day, you're like, No, I'm not into McDonald's. I'm gonna eat a homemade meal. Yeah, you just feel good.

Juke:

Yeah?

Unknown:

Not not just from the food, but just because you did something for

Juke:

you, yeah, showing up for yourself. So me, Vanya henry.com check it in the description and her Instagram as well. I love

Unknown:

Miva moves.

Juke:

Yeah? It makes me it's motivating to watch people move. So check it out, and until next time. GG,

Unknown:

yes, oh. GG,

Juke:

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